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		<title>AAEmpty: moved Talk:Math 485 to Talk:Math 485: Mathematical Cryptography</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/index.php/Talk:Math_485&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Math 485&quot;&gt;Talk:Math 485&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/index.php/Talk:Math_485:_Mathematical_Cryptography&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Math 485: Mathematical Cryptography&quot;&gt;Talk:Math 485: Mathematical Cryptography&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan='2' style='text-align: center;' lang='en'&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;mw-diff-empty&quot;&gt;(No difference)&lt;/div&gt;
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		<id>https://math.byu.edu/wiki/index.php?title=Talk:Math_485:_Mathematical_Cryptography&amp;diff=679&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Pmj5 at 20:14, 28 August 2008</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the course focuses on the mathematics behind cryptography, would &amp;quot;Mathematical Cryptography&amp;quot; be a better course title than &amp;quot;Introduction to Cryptography&amp;quot;? -pmj5&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the course focuses on the mathematics behind cryptography, would &amp;quot;Mathematical Cryptography&amp;quot; be a better course title than &amp;quot;Introduction to Cryptography&amp;quot;? -pmj5&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Math 371 prerequisite is a rather high barrier to entry.&amp;#160; It concedes that we do not expect to have many non-math majors in this course.&amp;#160; If, instead, the prerequisite was simply Math 343, this course could be a useful tool for recruiting students into the mathematics major or graduate program, by encouraging engineering/physics/etc. students to enroll.&amp;#160; The material is almost certainly more likely to be interesting to the generic student than many of our other courses seem at first to non-mathematicians, because of its real-world applications, and we should take advantage of this to get more students enrolled in a mathematics course. -pmj5&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Math 371 prerequisite is a rather high barrier to entry.&amp;#160; It concedes that we do not expect to have many non-math majors in this course.&amp;#160; If, instead, the prerequisite was simply Math 343, this course could be a useful tool for recruiting students into the mathematics major or graduate program, by encouraging engineering/physics/etc. students to enroll.&amp;#160; The material is almost certainly more likely to be interesting to the generic student than many of our other courses seem at first to non-mathematicians, because of its real-world applications, and we should take advantage of this to get more students enrolled in a mathematics course. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt; We certainly shouldn't water down the material in an attempt to cater to students from other departments, but I believe that the course can be taught at a level that will both allow math majors to see connections between cryptography and other topics they have studied, and at the same time provide an opportunity for engineering/science students to be introduced to some beautiful mathematics.&amp;#160; &lt;/ins&gt;-pmj5&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Pmj5 at 22:29, 19 August 2008</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Maple and Mathematica do better than Matlab at doing arithmetic with large integers.&amp;#160; I have had students encounter problems with rounding using Matlab, making implementing RSA difficult; perhaps the learning outcomes should not treat all three software packages equally.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Maple and Mathematica do better than Matlab at doing arithmetic with large integers.&amp;#160; I have had students encounter problems with rounding using Matlab, making implementing RSA difficult; perhaps the learning outcomes should not treat all three software packages equally. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-pmj5&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the course focuses on the mathematics behind cryptography, would &amp;quot;Mathematical Cryptography&amp;quot; be a better course title than &amp;quot;Introduction to Cryptography&amp;quot;?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the course focuses on the mathematics behind cryptography, would &amp;quot;Mathematical Cryptography&amp;quot; be a better course title than &amp;quot;Introduction to Cryptography&amp;quot;? &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-pmj5&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Math 371 prerequisite is a rather high barrier to entry.&amp;#160; It concedes that we do not expect to have many non-math majors in this course.&amp;#160; If, instead, the prerequisite was simply Math 343, this course could be a useful tool for recruiting students into the mathematics major or graduate program, by encouraging engineering/physics/etc. students to enroll.&amp;#160; The material is almost certainly more likely to be interesting to the generic student than many of our other courses seem at first to non-mathematicians, because of its real-world applications, and we should take advantage of this to get more students enrolled in a mathematics course.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Math 371 prerequisite is a rather high barrier to entry.&amp;#160; It concedes that we do not expect to have many non-math majors in this course.&amp;#160; If, instead, the prerequisite was simply Math 343, this course could be a useful tool for recruiting students into the mathematics major or graduate program, by encouraging engineering/physics/etc. students to enroll.&amp;#160; The material is almost certainly more likely to be interesting to the generic student than many of our other courses seem at first to non-mathematicians, because of its real-world applications, and we should take advantage of this to get more students enrolled in a mathematics course. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-pmj5&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Pmj5: New page: Maple and Mathematica do better than Matlab at doing arithmetic with large integers.  I have had students encounter problems with rounding using Matlab, making implementing RSA difficult; ...</title>
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				<updated>2008-08-19T22:28:50Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Maple and Mathematica do better than Matlab at doing arithmetic with large integers.  I have had students encounter problems with rounding using Matlab, making implementing RSA difficult; ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Maple and Mathematica do better than Matlab at doing arithmetic with large integers.  I have had students encounter problems with rounding using Matlab, making implementing RSA difficult; perhaps the learning outcomes should not treat all three software packages equally.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the course focuses on the mathematics behind cryptography, would &amp;quot;Mathematical Cryptography&amp;quot; be a better course title than &amp;quot;Introduction to Cryptography&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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The Math 371 prerequisite is a rather high barrier to entry.  It concedes that we do not expect to have many non-math majors in this course.  If, instead, the prerequisite was simply Math 343, this course could be a useful tool for recruiting students into the mathematics major or graduate program, by encouraging engineering/physics/etc. students to enroll.  The material is almost certainly more likely to be interesting to the generic student than many of our other courses seem at first to non-mathematicians, because of its real-world applications, and we should take advantage of this to get more students enrolled in a mathematics course.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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